Monday, December 10, 2007

Update For Episode #6512 December 10, 2007

A drab and colourless episode that can bring on a feeling of ennui

Jan and Leanne

The two meet at the pub for a drink. Leanne tries to buy the round for both of them but Janice insists she can buy her own drinks. She has no money for rent or food - but she can buy her own drinks.

Peter and Maria

The prince of polygamy runs into the princess of perm and asks if she can give him a trim later on. Maria tells him sorry but she is all booked up for the day. Despite this setback Peter decides to take matters into his own hands by marching into The Salon and taking a look in the appointment book for himself. Maria protests vehemently, citing hairdresser/client privilege, but Peter is not to be deterred and decides that she can fit him in between two of the blue hair types.

While Maria is washing his hair they have a good little chat about all that has transpired with Tracey and Charlie and the whole legal situation. (if you wash the smurfman's hair he will tell you all his secrets as well)

Later at The Rovers Peter and Maria bump into each other again (coincidence?) and Peter gets the drinks in. The two sit in a booth looking quite cozy while Peter elucidates his philosophy on polygamy.

Liam and Carla

Paul is still missing. Carla and Liam have a bit of a row over who is to blame for the situation. (I doubt Dr. Phil could figure this one out) They ask Michelle if she has any inkling where the eldest brother might be, which adds further fuel to the familial fire. In an attempt to force his brother out of hiding Liam leaves a message for Paul telling him that Carla knows the truth about how Dean died.

Liz and Vern and Derek

Liz has arranged for cover at work so she can take Vern for a special night out. However, when she tells the perspiring percussionist her plan, Vern tells Liz he has to take a rain check because he has already made plans to go to the Northern Soul Revival in Rochdale - but he is good to go any other night. Liz is not amused.

A short while later Derek the new brewery delivery man shows up at the pub - on his day off. He tells Liz that of all the pubs he delivers to he chose to visit The Rovers. Winkwinknudgenudge. The two then make googly eyes at each other until Derek works up the nerve to bring up the conversation they had the other day - and asks what Liz would say if he asked her out for a drink. Having already cleared her schedule, and feeling slighted by the little drummer boy, Liz agrees to meet Derek that very evening.

Just before Derek arrives to take Liz out, Vern returns from Rochdale and tells Liz that his northern heart is more important than northern soul. Some crap like that. Derek shows up right about then, and he and Liz do a little discrete flirting while Vern is standing between them.

Tracey and Deirdre and Ken

Ken and Deirdre are having a debate in the kitchen about the effectiveness of the English legal system. The same old story.

Tracey and Jayne go to the visit Mr. Sinclair the solicitor to discuss the upcoming trial. He wants Tracey to tell him the history of events leading up to her killing Charlie in 'self-defence'. Tracey seems to be getting tired of the whole charade and is less than co-operative with her legal team, finally asking them to just tell her what it is she is supposed to say.

Tracey is getting the impression that Mr. Sinclair is less than convinced with her story. If he won't believe her, what would a jury think?

Ken and Deirdre go for an awkward drink at the local.

Tracey returns home in a cab with Jayne who does her best to advise Tracey about how she should present herself in court. Tracey gives her lawyer short shrift and then goes in the house and bitches to her parents about how the solicitor told her that her testimony has to be in her own words. She wonders what they are paying him if that is all the advice he has to offer.

Deirdre finally admits to Ken the doubts she has been having about the supposed innocence of their daughter. He asks what has brought this on, and Deirdre tells him about the video tape of David and Tracey that Jason brought her, and how suspicious their behaviour seemed. That plus the attitude of the lawyers is making her wonder.

Deep down it seems Deirdre knows the truth about what happened.

The Factory Girls

Liam greets his staff at the door in the morning to welcome them back to work. He takes Vicky aside to tell her the good news about her raise - courtesy of the actions of her co-workers. In an effort to show her appreciation Vicky buys some cakes for the girls, a gesture which is appreciated by Fiz and Hayley, but Kelly and Jo are less accepting and proceed to act like cows foir the duration of the episode.

Original date this episode aired - March 14, 2007

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

didn't anyone notice when Peter horked up some nasty spit and then kicked it up in the air, right before he talked to Maria? haha my mom and i taped that one, so we watched it in slow-mo. lol so dirty but so funny!

~Sarah

Trudy C said...

Anyone know what the difference between a Solicitor and a Barristor? I'm guessing a Barristor is for more complex cases.

On a completely random note - I was watching a BBC series called Monarch of the Glen - about a new Laird in Scotland and on one episode was low and behold our very own Claire. This episode was filmed in 2000. She was looking very, very young.

Anonymous said...

Papa Smurf excellent update! I loved the picture! Is it just me or does anyone else think it strange that a lawyer would pick up and drop off her client by cab!
I just thought it seemed a little far fetched. I don't think Tracey new lawyer believes one word of Tracey's claim of self-defence.

Debbie said...

Great update. Sometimes I think the dull episodes are written to break up the pace, to remind everyone what the story lines, to remind viewers that other characters exist and also to seed upcoming issues, like Janice being broke.

Trudy,
I think that a solicitor, deals directly with clients with papers and small heirings. But I think a barrister is a lead lawyer who specialises in the courtroom. They argue cases and are needed only for advocacy. They also can argue cases in higher courts that solicitors can't get to.

A solicitor can stand in place of a client and make appeals to the court. A barrister cannot. They are actually barred from doing so.

OK, with that comment out of the way I can start on my new project: buying up all the shampoo between down town Toronto and Thunder Bay.

kunzie said...

Enjoyed the update! I was hoping and preying that Peter was actually kicking his gum. Can you even kick hork?

Anonymous said...

I thought it was gum too.

Whitehorse Fan said...

At one point in the Deirdre/Ken exchange I could see Ken thinking: "Now you question her innocence? After you browbeat and guilted me into putting our home on the line to get Tracey a lawyer?"

But he didn't say anything. He is a better person than I.

Anonymous said...

Ken seems stunned that Deirdre is questioning Tracey's innocence, which surprises me because he seemed to be questioning Tracey's innocence leading up to this.

One would think he'd lean across the table and say "I KNOW! I think she's guilty too."

Ooooops. I forgot. Blanche is the only other person in the house who would say that!

missusmac

Anonymous said...

Sooo, here's my question: should we be hoping (for Ken and Deirdre's sake) that Tracey is found innocent so that they don't lose face along with their life savings, or do we hope they lock her up and throw away the key, regardless of Ken and Deirdre?

(I know what I'm rooting for.)

Did anyone else yell FINALLY at the TV last night, as Deirdre voiced her suspicions to Ken?

Michigander Fan

Anonymous said...

Sooo, here's my question: should we be hoping (for Ken and Deirdre's sake) that Tracey is found innocent so that they don't lose face along with their life savings, or do we hope they lock her up and throw away the key, regardless of Ken and Deirdre?

(I know what I'm rooting for.)

Did anyone else yell FINALLY at the TV last night, as Deirdre voiced her suspicions to Ken?

Michigander Fan

Anonymous said...

I sincerely hope that was gum. The idea of it being spittle-based is too gross for words.

Although I am generally anti-littering, you have to admit it was a nifty move. It had shades of Steve the Scene-Stealer (although I don't see Steve exerting that much energy).

MF

Anonymous said...

Missus,

Blanche has been locked in the dishwasher, probably by Tracey.

MF

Skeezix said...

Debbie pretty much summed up the difference between barristers and solicitors. The only thing I would add is that in English Canada, the two are merged, so when a person is called to the bar, (s)he is both a barrister and a solicitor. Most law firms in English-speaking provinces style themselves as "Barristers and Solicitors". In Quebec, with its civil code, there is a split between lawyers and notaries, although the split is somewhat different than the barrister/solicitor split in the U.K.

Now that I have provided that information, could someone please answer me this: have I missed it, or has the issue of Charlie's estate been resolved in any way?

Frankly, I think the look on Tracy's face would be fantastic if she were to see Shelley swoop down and claim all of Charlie's assets, given that Charlie is the father to her child.

Anonymous said...

Skeezix,

Not to the best of my knowledge - Jayshun is still running Charlie's business (getting funds from I-don't-know-where), The only "development" is that Charlie's house has been sold, but who put it on the market and who will collect any proceeds is anybody's guess.

Correct me if I'm wrong, y'all.

MF

pip said...

You're right, MF, there has been nothing said about who is administering Charlie's estate.

When is Shelley's child due anyway? It must be soon. Shelley wouldn't be entitled to his estate, but the baby likely would if Charlie died without a will.

I missed last night's episode, but I'll be sure to catch the omnibus this Sunday because Dierdre beginning to doubt Tracy is just an awesome development. Maybe Ken was stunned in the 'I've been trying to tell you this all along, you doughnut' sense, and can't believe that something other than his eloquent persuasion has finally made her change her mind.

Lawyers in English speaking Canada are called to the bar, meaning that they are barristers (and solicitors). I don't understand how the distinction is working in Tracy's case. Isn't Jane a barrister? Hasn't she been appearing for her in court all along, and isn't she the one that Ken and Dierdre thought they would be paying the big bucks to for Tracy's defence, but now there is a real barrister on the scene to take over the court work?

Whitehorse Fan said...

I'm glad you too are confused about the barrister/solicitor thing, Pip. I always thought the division was: solicitors do paper work, and barristers go to court. I had wondered before why they kept referring to Jane as Tracy's solicitor. Who knew it was more complicated than that?

Re: Ken's reaction. I thought Ken was treading softly and gently, for fear that if he took too strong a stance, Deirdre would lapse back into denial. I didn't get the sense that he was stunned by Deirdre's revelations.

Debbie said...

Pip, Jane is a solicitor. She can make appeals to the court, like for bail, but she can't act as a Tracy's advocate and argue the case.

pip said...

Thanks, Debbie. So then why when they were talking about getting the best lawyer available for the trial were they referring to Jane with no mention of Joe Barrister who now seems to be taking over? Surely the work Jane has done to date can't have cost 150,000 pounds or whatever that gawdawful number was they were bandying about.

papasmurf said...

There is no need for shampoo Deb, I would gladly share all my secrets with you.

Mind you it might be great fun...

Debbie said...

I think a solicitor does all the work up to the court case. Barristers typically get a "brief" from a solicitor and argue the case after the solicitor does all the research to build it. Like an interior designer builds the plan (Colin and Justin) and the decorater puts in the furnishings (whoever that assistant is in Home Heist).

So, Jane would be costly and since she specializes in domestic abuse cases, they would want to pay for her expertise. She knows what to look for, what to highlight etc.

Smurfman, I'm all ears.

Whitehorse Fan said...

Thanks for the clarification Debbie. I can see why Ken has some difficulties with it- I imagine it causes increased costs and duplication of work.

Anonymous said...

So, they're basically paying for TWO lawyers? Or does the barrister make less than the soliciter?

Wow. Sounds expensive and needlessly complicated. I mean, the grunt work is usually done by whoever Jack McCoy's female assistant is this season (I learned all my law from Law and Order).

Michigander Fan

Debbie said...

The thanks belongs to the great garbage pile of information known as the internet in general and Wikipedia in particular.

Anonymous said...

So now I'm interested in the Canadian legal system - does it compare more with the American system or the British system?

MF

Whitehorse Fan said...

I am not sure how the American system works. In Canada, everywhere except Quebec, like Pip has said, we have rolled the barrister/solicitor thing into one.

In practice, generally, there are people who do solicitor work- drafting wills, contracts, that kind of thing. Then there are people who go to court: civil litigators, family lawyers and criminal lawyers. Whether you go to court or not is merely a matter of preference.

Quebec is a mystery to me.

Pat said...

Tracy is losing her cool and is losing believers; Claire is heading down a deep pit. Glad to see that Vern is losing his control over Liz, it will only be a matter of time. Will be so glad when Jim comes back.

Anonymous said...

Sooooo, no one has any issues with Liz having a fling with Derek?

Thought not!

Vern is nice enough guy, but a total loser. I don't usually condone cheating, but in this instance; Go Liz Go!

missusmac

Ooops, forgot Derek's wife. OK, maybe she's a female Vern, and as such deserves to be cheated on?